The ‘Working With Not To’ project is led by Pam Luckock and Fran O’Hara, and provides resources and events to grow Co-Production.

They aim to model co-production in their working methodology: working with people, from the start, to achieve an aim.They are passionate about the difference Co-production can make; acting as catalysts to start conversations, as discussion partners to help people to think differently, and as learning partners to find ways to make co-production happen. They run co-production events, meet-ups, training and coaching sessions, and co-design tools and processes, using visual-led methods.